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March 22, 2007 06:46 PM UTC

Edwards (Not) Out

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  • by: Colorado Pols

UPDATE: Politico.com’s reporting was in error: Edwards is NOT out of the race.

Breaking on the CNN ticker:

Former Sen. John Edwards announced today he is suspending his campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination because his wife, Elizabeth, has had a recurrence of breast cancer, according to the Web site Politico.com.

Politico.com is down, presumably from traffic, as of this writing. It’s not been indicated that Edwards is formally withdrawing, only that he is “suspending” his campaign–astute Pols readers will remember the same verbage employed by Colorado gubernatorial candidate Marc Holtzman, in response to the “crisis” of Referendum C.

We sympathize very much with Edwards as his wife faces a relapse of breast cancer, and find his decision to stop campaigning and care for his wife absolutely above reproach.

So will, like Bill Murray told the mayor in Ghostbusters, millions of American voters…

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  1. Sad about Edwards’ wife.  I can’t imagine how stressful a presidential campaign is and how hard it must be on his wife, who will need all the strength she can in order to continue her fight against cancer.  I suspect that Edwards’ suspension ends his campaign.  Now Richardson can be the “3rd Man” dark horse candidate who can rise up the middle like Kerry if Rodham-Clinton and Obama kill each other.

    2. This thread seems to have been derailed by a discussion about the press conference.

      That’s not the issue. The issue is whether a trial lawyer who cold-bloodly drove OB/GYNs out of his state on his way to a fortune and who defended anti-Christian bloggers on his staff and then puts his career ahead of his wife’s life has the judgment to be president.

      I say no.

  2. Although I probably would not have supported Edwards if he ran, it would be solely for political reasons (who I thought had the best chance of winning a general election). In reality though (as opposed to political reality), Edwards and his wife are both good people who have tried hard to fight the good fight. Edwards has tried his whole life to follow the most basic tenant of the Democratic party… help others that are less fortunate than you in life. I sincerely hope that they can continue to fight together, whether it be in the presidential election or on some other battlefield.

    1. It’ll get him some media attention, but if he hasn’t cought fire by now, he won’t.  He should have used this occasion to drop out of the race.

    1. Shows how Edwards’ campaign is floundering.  He should just have issued a press release on the issue.  But, it is the end of the crucial first quarter fundraising period, and he wasn’t getting media attention amid the Hillary-Obama slugfest.

      1. If you don’t like Edwards I can’t blame you…but come on…  Do you realize where Edwards was a mere 10 days before the Iowa caucuses in 04?  He was 4th in the polls in the mid-teens.  Where was he 10 days later?  Oh that’s right, he finished 2nd with 32%-ish of the vote. 

        First Q fundraising isnt going to kill Edwards…wait until, oh, I don’t know, maybe sometime REMOTELY near January before deciding his campaign is dead.

        1. How many times do you actually hear that Edwards has a 10 point lead over Obama and Clinton in Iowa? Hardly ever, but you always hear the national polls.
          What do you think the MSM is going to be saying the day after the Iowa caucus?
          That even though he won, he is still “3rd” place?
          Not to mention he has been endorsed by North Carolina’s Congressional members as well as these guys in Oklahoma, which is about to vote to move its primary up to the same day as the South Carolina primary.
          What will happen when Edwards goes to his state of birth (SC) after an Iowa win – and with Oklahoma the same day – a state he only lost by 400 votes to Wes Clark in 04?

          30 Members Of The Oklahoma State Legislature Endorse John Edwards For President

          John Edwards for President
          Mar 16, 2007

          Chapel Hill, North Carolina – The John Edwards for President campaign announced today that 30 Democrats in the Oklahoma State Legislature endorsed Senator John Edwards for President. Among those endorsing Edwards are Oklahoma State Senate President Pro Tempore Mike Morgan, State House Minority Leader Danny Morgan, 10 State Senators and 20 State Representatives.

          “I am honored to have the support of these outstanding leaders,” said Edwards. “They work hard each day to represent the values of Oklahoma working and middle class families and I am proud to have them involved in my campaign.”

          House Minority Leader Danny Morgan stated, “John Edwards will fight to improve the lives of middle class Oklahomans and working Americans. He shares our values, and he understands what it takes to build the middle class and move America forward.”

          Senate President Mike Morgan commented: “Numerous Oklahoma Democrats from both chambers agree that John Edwards is the strongest Presidential candidate in the field. He relates to our values and can communicate with the people of our state.”

          Representative Jerry McPeak, a key organizer of Senator Edwards’ support in Oklahoma, added:

          “Oklahoma legislators representing both rural and urban areas from across the state are united behind John Edwards’ candidacy. We believe he is the best candidate to move our Party and our nation forward.”

          The 30 Oklahoma legislators supporting John Edwards for President are:

          STATE SENATORS
          Mike Morgan (D-Stillwater), President Pro Tempore
          Charlie Laster (D-Shawnee), President Pro Tempore-elect, Co-Floor Leader
          Jay Paul Gumm (D-Durant), Co-Assistant Floor Leader, Energy Committee Co-Chair
          Jeff Rabon (D-Hugo), Co-Assistant Floor Leader, Transportation Committee Co-Chair
          Charles Wyrick (D-Fairland), Democratic Whip, Agriculture and Rural Development Committee Co-Chair
          Kenneth Corn (D-Howe), Democratic Caucus Chairman
          Sean Burrage (D-Claremore), Rules Committee Co-Chair
          Judy Eason McIntyre (D-Tulsa), Education Committee Co-Chair
          Richard Lerblance (D-Hartshorne), Judiciary Committee Co-Chair
          Jim Wilson (D-Tahlequah), Finance Committee Co-Chair

          STATE REPRESENTATIVES
          Danny Morgan (D-Prague), Democratic Leader
          James Covey (D-Custer City), Democratic Floor Leader
          David Braddock (D-Altus), Deputy Democratic Floor Leader
          Wallace Collins, (D-Norman), Asst. Democratic Floor Leader
          Wes Hilliard (D-Sulphur), Asst. Democratic Floor Leader
          Jerry McPeak (D-Warner), Asst. Democratic Floor Leader
          Wade Rousselot (D-Wagoner), Asst. Democratic Floor Leader
          Terry Harrison (D-McAlester), Democratic Whip
          Eric Proctor (D-Tulsa), Democratic Caucus Secretary
          John Auffet (D-Stilwell)
          Scott BigHorse (D-Pawhuska)
          Neil Brannon (D-Arkoma)
          John Carey (D-Durant)
          Jerry Ellis (D-Valliant)
          Larry Glenn (D-Miami)
          Darrell Gilbert (D-Tulsa)
          Richard Morrissette (D-Oklahoma City)
          Brian Renegar (D-McAlester)
          Paul Roan (D-Tishomingo)
          Glen Bud Smithson (D-Sallisaw)

          Senator Morgan and Representative Morgan released the following letter announcing their joint endorsement of Senator Edwards:

          Dear Fellow Oklahoma Democrat,

          Our nation faces critical issues both here at home and abroad, and we need a real leader to get our country back on the right path. With the 2008 Presidential Preference Primary in Oklahoma less than a year away, we believe it is important to support a candidate who can transform America, which is why we are supporting Senator John Edwards for President.

          After a thorough review of our many qualified candidates it is clear that Senator Edwards has earned our support. Senator Edwards has the ideas and vision to lead our country and restore America as the moral leader in the world. He will always fight to improve the lives of working Oklahomans and every working American.

          Senator Edwards has been a friend to our state and to the causes we hold dear. He has spent more time in Oklahoma than any other announced or potential candidates, and he understands and can effectively communicate with our values-driven, populist electorate. During the 2006 election cycle, he worked tirelessly to support our efforts to elect Democratic majorities in the State House and Senate. He attended fundraisers on behalf of both the House and Senate caucuses, profiled our members on his website, and repeatedly offered his personal time and service when it could be of use for fundraising, candidate recruitment and messaging.

          We believe it’s time to return the favor to Senator Edwards. Not only will we be lending our name to his effort, we will also be working on the ground locally to extend our volunteer organizations to his campaign.

          As the leaders of the Democratic Party in both houses of the state legislature, we both offer Senator John Edwards our endorsement and our full support. We hope that all of our colleagues in both caucuses join us in supporting Senator Edwards – the strongest candidate for President in the Democratic field.

          Sincerely,

          Senator Mike Morgan
          President Pro Tempore

          Representative Danny Morgan
          Minority Leader

          1. Come on, that’s Oklahoma!  When do they have their primary/caucus, like after Hawaii?  Not a really relevant state, politically.  Now if Edwards got that kind of support in South Carolina, I’d be impressed.

            1. i mentioned that up above.

              A bill that would move up Oklahoma’s presidential preferential primary next year is being touted as a way to attract more presidential candidates but could have the opposite effect and cost the state delegates at the national conventions, leaders of both parties say. House Bill 2095 would set the presidential primary a week earlier. Instead of Feb. 5, it would be Jan. 29, just two weeks after the first contest in the race, the Iowa caucuses.
              http://okbluenotes.b…

              2. Oklahoma would be in an awful lot of hot water if they did that – the DNC would not let them move the date earlier than 2/5.  They’d lose their delegates, and the DNC would penalize candidates who campaign in Oklahoma. It would be counter-productive.

                Tulsa World, 3/22/07:

                Oklahoma Republican Party Chairman Tom Daxon said the state party has not taken a position on the possible change, but has been told the party could lose delegates to the national convention.

                Oklahoma Democratic Party Chairman Lisa Pryor said the Democratic National Committee could fine candidates who come to Oklahoma if the primary is changed. In addition, the party could lose some of its 47 delegates to the convention, she said.

                “If we change our primary, as soon as the law is effective candidates can’t come in here without campaigns being fined by the DNC,” Pryor said. “That would be foolish to pay campaign dollars for fines when you don’t have to. That is a waste of money.”

                The DNC and Republican National Committee have interests in determining when primaries are held, she said. Both parties have schedules for when states can hold their presidential primaries and penalize candidates who don’t observe those schedules.

                  2. While the article talks about the heavy passage in the house, it also talks about how legislators are now having second thoughts due to what they are hearing from the party leaders.

                    1. How is it that the two big parties have so much control about primary dates?  I do recognize that legislators could be punished by their parties for not toeing a line, but aren’t primary/caucus dates ultimately a state issue?

                      I know some of you here are a lot smarter than me on these matters, please enlighten me.

                    2. …that political party rules general trump state election laws. 
                        There are a couple of big exceptions to this principle.
                      Specifically, legislatively-enacted laws necessary to protect the integrity of the electoral process (i.e., verifying primary voter registration or hanlding abstenee ballots), or laws necessary to protect the voting rights of suspect classifications (e.g., racial or ethnic groups) are permitted and will be upheld when they conflict with political party rules.
                        Keep in mind that political parties are “private associations” (albeit on a large scale) entitled to make their own rules when it comes to a candidate selection process.

                    3. then pay for those primaries?  I’m not serious, but that’s the logic I see.  Let the parties mail their own ballots and pay for the counting, no?

      1. The return of the cancer would have caused massive speculation about will he/won’t he run. The press conference nipped that in the bud with accurate info straight form the horse’s mouth. It was the best call that could have been made under the circumstances.

        Best wishes to Mrs. Edwards!

          1. but I have to say that if he were the type who would try to “capitalize off a family crisis” he never would have said that discussing the death of his son was off the table during the last campaign.

          3. If they hadn’t had the press conference, it would have been all about them hiding something.  The story isn’t John Edwards today, it’s Elizabeth.

            The saddest part is that her cancer is at Stage 4 and has metastasized into her bones.  She will likely not recover.

            Regardless of what he says, I don’t expect Edwards to continue campaigning actively, but who knows?  At least by leaving his committee active, he can still raise money, and money can later influence other campaigns.

            Maybe the decision to leave the campaign open was hers.  Maybe she’s chosen how she wants to go out.  We don’t know what’s been discussed between them in the privacy of their relationship.

            My prayers are with both of them.  I can’t imagine how Elizabeth feels today, but neither can I imagine coming to grips with the strong possibility that I might soon lose my wife.

          4. It looks like you want to take a family tragedy for a national media figure and criticize him in any way possible.

            If Edwards had only sent out a press release, you’d be here ragging on him for seeming too detached.

            When you’re one of the top three candidates for President and your wife’s cancer recurs and is deemed incurable, we’ll see how you deal with it.

            1. YOU TAKE CARE OF HER!  You do what you can to make she gets the best care possible and spend as much time with her as you can.  You don’t use her misfortune to get national press.  What kind of husband doesn’t even take time off to spend with her and see how she does before deciding that he is running full speed ahead regardless of what she is going through.  The whole thing seems really thoughtless.

                1. here’s a newsflash:  everything isn’t about you.

                  ColoradoPols:  Elizabeth Edwards has incurable cancer.
                  Gecko:  But enough about me, let’s talk about me some more.

                  Good god, doesn’t your well of self-absorption and anger ever run dry?

                  The fact of the matter is, Elizabeth Edwards’ illness may have a major impact on the Democratic primary and some impact on the Presidential race.  Beyond that, it’s a family tragedy happening to good people.

                  Have the decency to just once think about someone else.

                  1. So which part of the national press confrence was there to help Elizabeth???  Oh that’s right none of it the confrenece was only there to help Jonny boy.

                    1. That national press conference will do wonders for cancer research. She has been very up front about her battles with her first round of breast cancer, her weight, and I suspect she will be just as open about this round. Maybe she thought that the press conference will be beneficial to women, and men, who are suffering from breast cancer. Maybe she thinks that her husband will make a great president and in spite of her cancer she wants him to press on.

                      Who are you to question their motives?

                    2. If they wanted to help other woman and advance the research thay’ve got the millions to do it why not do something that would really make a difference and donate some money to help.  This was self serving for the Edwards campaign plain and simple.

                    3. You dont think this will make a difference? Are you that daft as to think that when shit happens to celebrity people dont stand up and take notice?

                      Maybe she wanted to do this. Did you ever consider that? Maybe it was her idea. She is a very public person.

                      You dont like Edwards, fine. But have a little empathy. 

                  2. Bite it bobby. You know as well as anyone that most everytime I state a personal opinion, all the lefties come out of the woodwork to scream about how fuckin insensitive I am.
                    I made a statement to that effect and once again you libs come out swinging. It gets a little old.

                    I originally stated that this liberal candidate held a press conference for one main reason, SYMPATHY.
                    You know it.

                    A normal rational person would set his political ambitions aside and care for his (maybe) dying wife. I know I would and I’m an ogre in your eyes. But does this guy? No. His ego is way too big.
                    I have even less respect for him now than I did before.
                    You should too.

                    1. It’s not just the lefties.  There a few of us centrists who find your fetish for the confederate flag to be offensive, stupid and “fuckin’ insensitive.”

                    4. but how you say it. Your original comment was dripping with prejudicial contempt and that was what got people up in arms.

                      Of course at this point you’ve got such a reputation that you probably would have been jumped on even if you wrote in a neutral tone. Still, your defensiveness smacks of a “I don’t look for trouble, trouble finds me” BS excuse. Say what you want to say but ride out the shitstorm you cause.

                    5. I state MY OPINION and most screaming lefties hate it.
                      That brings me much joy.
                      But what really flips my switch is that ya’ll are so one sided but deny it. I admit I’m extremely conservative, why can’t you guys admit you are far left? Saying you are center is bullshit. 
                      Anyone mentions Bush, Tancredo, Musgrave, Rumsfeld, Lamborn, etc and your hate filled rhetoric comes out full force. All the libs join in like wolves on a deer.

                      But when someone mentions something negative about a lib, like how can a liberal presidential candidate being so fuckin selfish as to continue his campaign even though his wife is dying, ya’ll scream foul.
                      Look at it without your blinders on.
                      Left doesn’t mean “right”.

                    6. You state your opinion with the expressed intent of pissing off liberals with inflammatory language. You go out of your way to piss people off, than you get all defensive when you get attacked, as if what you posted is civil and the attacks are out of line. 99% of your posts are laden with foul language, including racial slurs, and you expect people to just read and think to themselves “wow what a cogent post”?

                      You know what really flips my switch? The fact that you can write a civil post that can lead to real debate, yet you choose to be an obstinate internet tough guy. Grow up. This isnt a fifth grade playground, and this isnt your local biker bar where you can curse dems and liberals and the japanese and claim the south will rise again. This is a place for debate, civil debate. And in only one instance have you ever been civil. Im embarrassed for you.

                    10. but if you’re serious, I’ll second Toodles’ reply. I was at work all day and couldn’t reply.

                      Maybe you get confused by all the responses, but I for one do identify as liberal, not centrist. I’m not extreme; I know this because I used to be. OQD is definitely centrist; he used to be a Republican ya know, and he quit the Dems because of some of their positions. It’s possible he’d still be a Repub if he wasn’t gay. Also, I didn’t condemn you for what you originally said, but I will tell you to stop being defensive; you like to stir the pot, as you’ve said many times, so don’t complain when you splash yourself doing it.

      1. I lost my mother to cancer in 1997 so I am familiar with cancer. My sister in law is fighting leukemia right now and will hopefully survive.
        I have a female co-worker that is going through radiation treatment and we lost another employee a few years ago to the same crap.
        I say this not for sympathy but to let little minds like yours know that other people deal with this shit daily and don’t hold press conferences about it.
        I say again, he is looking for sympathy, period.

        1. How dare you.

          I have lost family members to both cancer and heart disease.  And I do understand that people deal with this daily.  But your response just goes to show that your mind-reading powers are not anywhere close to where you assume they are.  Pull your head out of your selfish ass for a while and try to understand that every circumstance is unique.

          Note that a politician’s family personal life is, unfortunately, fair game for the press, so, in my opinion, it is appropriate for Edwards to deal with this issue head-on.

          1. this egg throwing session, not me.
            You seem to think you can read the little fuckers mind with your attacks on me. I simply stated my observations to his seemingly obvious ploy.
            You note that a politician’s family life is open season in the press. Correct, but HE is the one that made this a big spectacle. So any rational person knowing that this guy is running for president, and is losing, can assume that he has a hidden agenda.
            If you deny that you are just rooting for your team and blind to the facts.

            2. regardless of whether he said something publicly or not.  Credit to John Edwards and even more to Elizabeth for handling this on their own terms. My heart goes out to both of them – and they, unlike you, have turned their life’s tragedies into empathy and improving this planet for other people.

              A few years ago, Sen. Gordon Smith’s (R-OR) son committed suicide. Sen. Smith has turned that tragedy into a drive for preventing teen suicide and better mental health treatment.  He’s also been up for re-election. So was he going for the sympathy vote, too? 

              And considering your blindness to the facts about the Clinton years, I don’t see where you have any room to complain about anyone else’s command of the facts.

        2. on the front page of papers daily, one of the top three contenders to replace The Chimperor, of course it would entirely appropriate for you to hide Mrs. Gecko’s life-threatening cancer from the world.

          You’re not that important to America, Gecko.  John Edwards, for better or worse, is.  If he’d *not* held a press conference, you’d just come here to smear him about that.

    2. My first thought?  Well, it’s a little long, isn’t it?  How many specific details does the public need?  Is a step by step review of the woman’s entire medical history warranted?  Do we need to meet the treatment team?  I agree, it seems false and I didn’t like how physically distant and upsupportive John was, especially when Elizabeth looked ready to cry at times; nor did I get a very genuine vibe off his hands in pocket, eyes wandering, hand through the perfect hair (that just *happened* to show off his Live Strong bracelet)while she was taking questions.
      One thought is, if the campaign is going on “strong”, why do we need this verbose and repetitious monologue, other than to impress on us how many hurdles they’ve faced and how hard they’ll be working?  I fail to see why a brief and dignified statement to the effect that the cancer had returned, the campaign would go on, and all involved were grateful for the support and would appreciate privacy to handle this wouldn’t have done.
      I don’t doubt that she is scared and he does care about her.  But I don’t doubt that they are both politicians, too.  After 2000, they announced her diagnosis and you heard very little after that, so the best marker of how much either one of them intends to use this on the campaign is going to be how much they choose to make it an issue from now on.

        2. after watching my dad lie in a comma for a fucking year and a half only to die from a mistake at a hospital..
          After that my only compassion is for my immediate family.

          Politicans are not worth the snot on my dog’s nose.

          IMHO of course.

          1. you would have preferred Edwards have handled the news of his wife’s cancer more like likely Republican Candidate for President and former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich did with his first wife when she was fighting cancer….divorce her!

            Another example of compassionate conservatism in action.

    4. It’s pretty clear that Gecko’s not a “compassionate conservative.”

      Edwards was in the middle of a presidential campaign. He has lots and lots of volunteers, contributors and well-wishers to get the news out to. But oh, no, God forbid he actually have a press conference: he’s only doing that to get sympathy from his wife’s illness.

      Heck, I wouldn’t even treat Tom Tancredo that way.

      1. The fact that so many people feel this so necessary to talk about only raises Edwards’ name and the fact that he’s running for president, and that golly, gee, maybe I’ll give him some money.  He knew people would debate this issue, and his gamble is that it will benefit him.

  8. While I am certainly not happy to hear of this sad news, it is interesting to see if Mr. Edwards learns a thing or two about compassion this time around.

    Despite his wife having been a cancer survivor during his first presidential campaign, John Edwards made a calculated political move to OPPOSE medical marijuana in 2004.

    In an effort to hang onto southern and moderate voters, he made the unconscionable decision to say he thinks sick and dying people should NOT be allowed to use marijuana, even if their doctor tells them it will help them and they live in a state — such as Colorado — where it is legal.

    The people of Colorado are more reasonable and compassionate than that — as demonstrated by a popular vote in favor of medical marijuana in 2000 — and John Edwards clearly is not representative of the state.

    John Edwards was right about the two Americas — there’s the America that is compassionate and does everything possible to relieve pain and suffering amongst its sick and dying, and there is the America that he lives in, which puts politics and getting elected ahead of morals doing what is right.

  9. you may be right, you may not be; I doubt it, but who knows? The real issue is what you choose to believe, and how you choose to express it. This game of interpreting whatever your political enemy does as cynical and disgusting, while interpreting whatever your home team does as sincere and upright (just like in sports: any foul called on my team means the ref was blind; any foul called on the opposite team was justified), is beyond ridiculous: It’s counterproductive in a variety of ways.

    There are already plenty of disincentives for intelligent, sincere people to run for office: If you aren’t feeding your ego or padding your resume, then you are being very self-sacrificing. Few couldn’t do better in the private sector, with fewer headaches. Continuing in the tone that you have set will only accomplish one thing: It will weed out everyone except those who truly do deserve your cyncism.

    So, when a candidate, who, from a material point of view, obviously doesn’t need this crap, has a family crisis, and announces it in a press conference instead of a press release (Oh, unholiest of all sins!), have doubts about his motives if you need to, but contribute to the public good by being discreet about them.

    And, as one footnote, I don’t like the tone of “my” party when they act as though Republicans are a particularly mean-spirited bunch, and my sympathies go to those Republicans of good-will who bemoan the image of their party misrepresented by the mean spirited people who have chosen to speak for them, but some of you are making it a very hard image not to accept.

  10. Gee, What a surprise that Politico had it wrong(NOT).  It was supposed to be the new big thing in up-to-the-minute political coverage but the articles really haven’t been ahead of the most mundane publications or sites as far as fresh, breaking news is concerned and the bloggers are neither particularly informative nor entertaining.  What a disappointment.  Not much of an addition for political junkies.  Elizabeth Edwards is far and away the best candidate for first lady though and deserves all the best. 

    1. Obama in Oklahoma City

      Barack Obama spoke to over 1,000 people yesterday at the Oklahoma City Antique Farmers Market. His message was clear: America needs change. From healthcare reforms to creating and using renewable energy sources, Obama’s take on the issues puts the everyday American back in control of government. He is clearly a candidate of the people, and for the people.
      http://okbluenotes.b…

      OK House bill 1095 has passed by 82-14. It is probably going to make it through the senate.
      Edwards only lost it by 400 votes in 2004 to wes clark…

      blah blah blah,, see my earlier post above about where Edwards really stands in this election.

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